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HD, ED und auch DM - sind heutige Hunde kranker als ihre Vorfahren?

  • FlatHeart1256
  • 8. August 2021 um 09:08
  • Ruebchen
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    • 28. September 2022 um 19:57
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    Zitat von Waschbär

    Nein, die Abstammung wird anhand der DNA-Probe überprüft, die bei Welpen abgenommen und im Vertragslabor gelagert wird. Du übermittelst dem Zuchtbuchamt dann lediglich den Auftrag Abstammungsüberprüfung ( = "DNA geprüft") vor dem ersten Zuchteinsatz.

    Ja, da hast du Recht, das habe ich mittlerweile auch gemerkt... habe das grade mit Ero im August noch erledigt ^^ :thumbup:

    Liebe Grüße,

    Nina mit A.J. & Ero 

  • Ruebchen
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    • 28. September 2022 um 19:59
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    Zitat von von haus michael

    Now my ask is...


    how do i get the "gepruft" stamp if the mother and part of her ancestry are not in possession of the dna deposit. will it be possible to obtain the proven genealogy using the biological deposits of the maternal great-grandparents?

    I'm sorry, i can't help you with that. I THINK that it is not possible. Maybe you should ask the SV directly .

    Liebe Grüße,

    Nina mit A.J. & Ero 

  • Waschbär
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    • 28. September 2022 um 20:43
    • #33
    Zitat von von haus michael

    how do i get the "gepruft" stamp if the mother and part of her ancestry are not in possession of the dna deposit. will it be possible to obtain the proven genealogy using the biological deposits of the maternal great-grandparents?

    A dog can receive the entry "DNA geprüft" in the SV only if the DNA of both parents is stored in the contract laboratory of the SV. And his DNA profile was compared to that of both of his parents. And a dog can only be approved for breeding in the SV if it has been "DNA geprüft".

    What means that a dog that was not born in Germany and was not registered as a puppy in the SV stud book not only its own DNA has to be submitted to the SV contract laboratory. But also that of his two parents. If one of both parents is death this is not possible and the dog cannot be used for breeding into the SV.

    But for you, the stud book regulations of the breeding association in your country are relevant . Not those of the SV in Germany.


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    • 28. September 2022 um 21:52
    • #34
    Zitat von Waschbär
    Zitat von von haus michael

    how do i get the "gepruft" stamp if the mother and part of her ancestry are not in possession of the dna deposit. will it be possible to obtain the proven genealogy using the biological deposits of the maternal great-grandparents?

    A dog can receive the entry "DNA geprüft" in the SV only if the DNA of both parents is stored in the contract laboratory of the SV. And his DNA profile was compared to that of both of his parents. And a dog can only be approved for breeding in the SV if it has been "DNA geprüft".

    What means that a dog that was not born in Germany and was not registered as a puppy in the SV stud book not only its own DNA has to be submitted to the SV contract laboratory. But also that of his two parents. If one of both parents is death this is not possible and the dog cannot be used for breeding into the SV.

    But for you, the stud book regulations of the breeding association in your country are relevant . Not those of the SV in Germany.

    OK. All clear ! But the disposition of SAS ( ASSOCIATED WITH SV), provides that the dog registered in the ENCI herd book can carry out the breed selection after having carried out HD and ED checks, various tests up to igp1 but must have the stamp of the deposit biological in Germany, without this stamp I can't access for the selection SAS.

    Today already send the biological storage at SAS that send at SV they resend in germany at Generatio GmbH.

    I hope one solution for my dog. In italy today they are not enough 3000€ to complete the whole process up to the selection.

    From Germany, I understand the blood sampling is done to all the puppies at the time the microchips are inserted, consequently, if the parents do not have the biological sample deposit, the born puppies cannot be registered in the herd book SV, and cant have the "pedigree" right?

    Zitat von Ruebchen
    Zitat von von haus michael

    Now my ask is...


    how do i get the "gepruft" stamp if the mother and part of her ancestry are not in possession of the dna deposit. will it be possible to obtain the proven genealogy using the biological deposits of the maternal great-grandparents?

    I'm sorry, i can't help you with that. I THINK that it is not possible. Maybe you should ask the SV directly .

    Thanks ;)

  • Waschbär
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    • 29. September 2022 um 16:58
    • #35

    I do not know your breeding regulations in Italy. The best thing to do is to contact the studbook office of the SV or the WUSV directly.

    Zitat von von haus michael

    From Germany, I understand the blood sampling is done to all the puppies at the time the microchips are inserted, consequently, if the parents do not have the biological sample deposit, the born puppies cannot be registered in the herd book SV, and cant have the "pedigree" right?

    That is correct.

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